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		<title>By: Trine-Maria</title>
		<link>http://crueltobekind.org/a-mentoring-program-for-fresh-aspiring-speakers-anyone-439#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Trine-Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I am not the typical women in this debate - I love to do speaking gigs - I am very good at it because I am passionate about what I do - and I like a good crowd - whether they are sceptical or positive about the topic. I tend to speak in Denmark mostly - but I don&#039;t care if I am to speak in English or Danish - and I do try to get more international speaking jobs. 

I work with new technology and reinvention of processes, products and communication - in my everyday life I work as a conultant (I have co-founded a small start-up - we are 5 employees now) and I have written a book about blogging as well. I know my subject and I walk the talk (meaning I don&#039;t just talk about new processes - I actually work most of the time on getting tools and processes to work with our clients!)

The reason why I disagree that it doesn&#039;t matter if there are women speaking on a conference is that if there are only male speakers I tend to believe that the organizers have to small a network to make a real interesting event. Their networks are to small or to narrow if they can&#039;t find any good female speakers. (And I am not talking 50/50 here - I just want one or two interesting women). It makes me wonder if the male speakers are good then?

In Denmark - at the moment - there is a debate about why there are no women in business boards. (we have around 5 percent women in boards here) - and I think it is because women are not visible in the network where the recruiting takes place. I have never heard about a vacant position on a board - and I would have no clue where to look for it - so how can I apply? I think maybe it is the same with a lot of speaking jobs? If you are not part of the loop you simply have no clue that there is an opportunity to speak? (and I am not blaming any one - I just think women should do more to get on the mailinglists and men should do more to get more women on the list - or ask people to forward the proposals to new people!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I am not the typical women in this debate &#8211; I love to do speaking gigs &#8211; I am very good at it because I am passionate about what I do &#8211; and I like a good crowd &#8211; whether they are sceptical or positive about the topic. I tend to speak in Denmark mostly &#8211; but I don&#8217;t care if I am to speak in English or Danish &#8211; and I do try to get more international speaking jobs. </p>
<p>I work with new technology and reinvention of processes, products and communication &#8211; in my everyday life I work as a conultant (I have co-founded a small start-up &#8211; we are 5 employees now) and I have written a book about blogging as well. I know my subject and I walk the talk (meaning I don&#8217;t just talk about new processes &#8211; I actually work most of the time on getting tools and processes to work with our clients!)</p>
<p>The reason why I disagree that it doesn&#8217;t matter if there are women speaking on a conference is that if there are only male speakers I tend to believe that the organizers have to small a network to make a real interesting event. Their networks are to small or to narrow if they can&#8217;t find any good female speakers. (And I am not talking 50/50 here &#8211; I just want one or two interesting women). It makes me wonder if the male speakers are good then?</p>
<p>In Denmark &#8211; at the moment &#8211; there is a debate about why there are no women in business boards. (we have around 5 percent women in boards here) &#8211; and I think it is because women are not visible in the network where the recruiting takes place. I have never heard about a vacant position on a board &#8211; and I would have no clue where to look for it &#8211; so how can I apply? I think maybe it is the same with a lot of speaking jobs? If you are not part of the loop you simply have no clue that there is an opportunity to speak? (and I am not blaming any one &#8211; I just think women should do more to get on the mailinglists and men should do more to get more women on the list &#8211; or ask people to forward the proposals to new people!)</p>
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		<title>By: Matina Gleissenebner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matina Gleissenebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody, I loved this post and also the disussion as I am in the middle of the field - I am a speaker but also the founder of a speakers agency for women, mainly because I was sick having to learn fro men all the time. I wanted to listen to women and that&#039;s when I started my search, inspired by the success of the speakers agency of a friend of mine. he todl me, when I asked him why he had not more women in his database, that simpy there are not enogh good women out there and if they were, you could not recognize it from their presentations. I did not believe it but so it is. Only to FIND some women out there with some special expertise and some neat self-presentations took me nearly one year. 

I have then started to organize events for Top-CEOs, having only women speak. the analysis of the first 3 events has shown the necessity of offering a real PROFESSIONAL SPEAKING TRAINING - as all women had excellent expertise, but none was excellent in speaking and presenting. 

this is kind of frustrating. 
anyway - hope dies last and I think we need to push also women up onto the podiums of this world as they have a backlogg in learning how to present themselves with self-confidence. and we need role-models in order to help younger women to come up more easily. learning is all about models - women do not find a lot of role-models to show them how to speak up with confidence, how to become active and share their enthusiasm and their knowledge. 

my aim with the speakers agency and the events connected to it is substantially this: to create role-models. if you know somebody or you are one ourself, please: SHOW UP! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody, I loved this post and also the disussion as I am in the middle of the field &#8211; I am a speaker but also the founder of a speakers agency for women, mainly because I was sick having to learn fro men all the time. I wanted to listen to women and that&#8217;s when I started my search, inspired by the success of the speakers agency of a friend of mine. he todl me, when I asked him why he had not more women in his database, that simpy there are not enogh good women out there and if they were, you could not recognize it from their presentations. I did not believe it but so it is. Only to FIND some women out there with some special expertise and some neat self-presentations took me nearly one year. </p>
<p>I have then started to organize events for Top-CEOs, having only women speak. the analysis of the first 3 events has shown the necessity of offering a real PROFESSIONAL SPEAKING TRAINING &#8211; as all women had excellent expertise, but none was excellent in speaking and presenting. </p>
<p>this is kind of frustrating.<br />
anyway &#8211; hope dies last and I think we need to push also women up onto the podiums of this world as they have a backlogg in learning how to present themselves with self-confidence. and we need role-models in order to help younger women to come up more easily. learning is all about models &#8211; women do not find a lot of role-models to show them how to speak up with confidence, how to become active and share their enthusiasm and their knowledge. </p>
<p>my aim with the speakers agency and the events connected to it is substantially this: to create role-models. if you know somebody or you are one ourself, please: SHOW UP! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I dislike speaking but I love talking about the subject.  I hate having to get up and do a talk, but one-on-one or in small groups I love spreading the passion.  Last year I did a couple of panels, this year I&#039;m going to try and do a few more, but it&#039;s not something I pursue with abandon, just look for the odd opportunities.  Then again, I did submit a proposal to SWSX and it got accepted. This is the point when I wonder what I&#039;m doing!!!!  Building a list is not what matters - acting is.  I try and do small bits, but I could do more

I go to a conference for the quality of the speakers, not their gender. I would not specifically pick a conference because it had more women on the agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I dislike speaking but I love talking about the subject.  I hate having to get up and do a talk, but one-on-one or in small groups I love spreading the passion.  Last year I did a couple of panels, this year I&#8217;m going to try and do a few more, but it&#8217;s not something I pursue with abandon, just look for the odd opportunities.  Then again, I did submit a proposal to SWSX and it got accepted. This is the point when I wonder what I&#8217;m doing!!!!  Building a list is not what matters &#8211; acting is.  I try and do small bits, but I could do more</p>
<p>I go to a conference for the quality of the speakers, not their gender. I would not specifically pick a conference because it had more women on the agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you ask &quot;what women have you speaking?&quot; this is a decorational question, not so much one of value for the event. It is like asking for &quot;will there be real milk for the coffee&quot; (don&#039;t get me wrong, that is important to me.)

And yes of course, we do have a much easier entrance to the speaking circuit through being a women, and every time somebody popps up this question it gets easier. But it is nothing more than a headstart. If you stand still after that, they will pass you.

[Work life balance is one issue on its own plus I am not dismissing the fact that child care and non supporting significant others are an issue here as well.]

The question stays - Do really more women come if more women are on the roster? 

And no, as much as I like blogher, it does not count in this regard, because it is marketed specifically to women. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you ask &#8220;what women have you speaking?&#8221; this is a decorational question, not so much one of value for the event. It is like asking for &#8220;will there be real milk for the coffee&#8221; (don&#8217;t get me wrong, that is important to me.)</p>
<p>And yes of course, we do have a much easier entrance to the speaking circuit through being a women, and every time somebody popps up this question it gets easier. But it is nothing more than a headstart. If you stand still after that, they will pass you.</p>
<p>[Work life balance is one issue on its own plus I am not dismissing the fact that child care and non supporting significant others are an issue here as well.]</p>
<p>The question stays &#8211; Do really more women come if more women are on the roster? </p>
<p>And no, as much as I like blogher, it does not count in this regard, because it is marketed specifically to women. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Piersall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Piersall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I got my first conference speaking position simply because I am a woman - they needed a chick on the roster and they knew I could pull it off. Since then, I&#039;ve gone after as many speaking gigs as I could. 

I don&#039;t know why more women haven&#039;t done it - it has been one of the biggest career accelerators I have ever done. Maybe that&#039;s part of it - women are incredibly protective of their work-life balance, sometimes to a fault.

That being said, every time I can be a part of the planning or feedback loop on a conference, usually the first words out of my mouth are, &quot;What women do you have speaking?&quot;. Most conference hosts want a big, diverse group of attendees. It&#039;s funny how they seem to forget the obvious - get a diverse group of presenters, diverse attendees will show up.

GREAT post, btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I got my first conference speaking position simply because I am a woman &#8211; they needed a chick on the roster and they knew I could pull it off. Since then, I&#8217;ve gone after as many speaking gigs as I could. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why more women haven&#8217;t done it &#8211; it has been one of the biggest career accelerators I have ever done. Maybe that&#8217;s part of it &#8211; women are incredibly protective of their work-life balance, sometimes to a fault.</p>
<p>That being said, every time I can be a part of the planning or feedback loop on a conference, usually the first words out of my mouth are, &#8220;What women do you have speaking?&#8221;. Most conference hosts want a big, diverse group of attendees. It&#8217;s funny how they seem to forget the obvious &#8211; get a diverse group of presenters, diverse attendees will show up.</p>
<p>GREAT post, btw!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With role in the game I did not really mean that game. ;) It is more about understanding what such an event usually is about - and in some regard this means adaption. And for example, being interesting enough to draw somebody out and make them practise unless being on such a stage comes natural to them. 

And, somebody has to bring them to the attention of those organizers and make it easy enough to connect etc etc. Which is why we often end up with the same faces.

As usual, it is not black or white. With my interviews for example I found that sometimes the most boring description / bio had the most interesting people behind them, but only once I got through them, not before. Meaning, they will never appear on the radar, unless something spectacular happens. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With role in the game I did not really mean that game. ;) It is more about understanding what such an event usually is about &#8211; and in some regard this means adaption. And for example, being interesting enough to draw somebody out and make them practise unless being on such a stage comes natural to them. </p>
<p>And, somebody has to bring them to the attention of those organizers and make it easy enough to connect etc etc. Which is why we often end up with the same faces.</p>
<p>As usual, it is not black or white. With my interviews for example I found that sometimes the most boring description / bio had the most interesting people behind them, but only once I got through them, not before. Meaning, they will never appear on the radar, unless something spectacular happens. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You need somebody who actually wants to be there and is capable of playing their role in this game.&quot;
That&#039;s exactly the problem. A lot of women don&#039;t want to &quot;play a game&quot;. They want to present their work, their ideas, their company - and don&#039;t want to be a pawn in a game of someone else. And I am not sure if they really miss an opportunity. There are a lot of quiet but successful men and women in this business. And I am not sure if the loud men are really the most successful, best, whatever... For me a good conference would be a conference where I could see some of the quiet but interesting faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You need somebody who actually wants to be there and is capable of playing their role in this game.&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s exactly the problem. A lot of women don&#8217;t want to &#8220;play a game&#8221;. They want to present their work, their ideas, their company &#8211; and don&#8217;t want to be a pawn in a game of someone else. And I am not sure if they really miss an opportunity. There are a lot of quiet but successful men and women in this business. And I am not sure if the loud men are really the most successful, best, whatever&#8230; For me a good conference would be a conference where I could see some of the quiet but interesting faces.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, it would just be enough if more woman actually started with putting contact information online, let alone some reference for an organizer to have a look. 

&quot;Name dropping is an annoying disease.&quot; 
Which again goes with the problem: as long as customers demand big names to show up (and not be satisfied just with great content) you need those speakers. Hen egg problem. Hence the endorsing part.


About the just inviting ... it is not what you do with men either. You do not &#039;just&#039; invite men nor women. You need somebody who actually wants to be there and is capable of playing their role in this game. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, it would just be enough if more woman actually started with putting contact information online, let alone some reference for an organizer to have a look. </p>
<p>&#8220;Name dropping is an annoying disease.&#8221;<br />
Which again goes with the problem: as long as customers demand big names to show up (and not be satisfied just with great content) you need those speakers. Hen egg problem. Hence the endorsing part.</p>
<p>About the just inviting &#8230; it is not what you do with men either. You do not &#8216;just&#8217; invite men nor women. You need somebody who actually wants to be there and is capable of playing their role in this game. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Christiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of these events are very selfish, &quot;we give each other a pat on the back&quot;-events. It doesn&#039;t mean that these events couldn&#039;t be interesting but that&#039;s maybe not the kind of profiling most women like. Fair enough, I think. I would really appreciate if the conferences and meetings would focus more on what the speaker says and not who the speaker is. Name dropping is an annoying disease. I don&#039;t think that there aren&#039;t enough women who are good speakers. They just don&#039;t want to join the &quot;I am the best, I am a Web2.0 hero&quot; show. And if you want to have more women on stage, just invite them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of these events are very selfish, &#8220;we give each other a pat on the back&#8221;-events. It doesn&#8217;t mean that these events couldn&#8217;t be interesting but that&#8217;s maybe not the kind of profiling most women like. Fair enough, I think. I would really appreciate if the conferences and meetings would focus more on what the speaker says and not who the speaker is. Name dropping is an annoying disease. I don&#8217;t think that there aren&#8217;t enough women who are good speakers. They just don&#8217;t want to join the &#8220;I am the best, I am a Web2.0 hero&#8221; show. And if you want to have more women on stage, just invite them.</p>
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