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	<title>Comments on: It takes two to tango: Why IT will strike back.</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Stewart</title>
		<link>http://crueltobekind.org/it-takes-two-to-tango-why-it-will-strike-back-446#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole, great article... I am working on a multi-part piece for my blog, specifically geared around Microsoft and the enterprise, but as we all know one of the common threads in any of these types of discussions is Google...

Your style is to the point and revealing - to your namesake (crueltobekind.org). I think I will become a subscriber and read through some more articles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole, great article&#8230; I am working on a multi-part piece for my blog, specifically geared around Microsoft and the enterprise, but as we all know one of the common threads in any of these types of discussions is Google&#8230;</p>
<p>Your style is to the point and revealing &#8211; to your namesake (crueltobekind.org). I think I will become a subscriber and read through some more articles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan, there is no doubt that both sides have absolute morons and clueless people! :) The point I am insisting on is that - taking your example - it is not the job of biz side to understand UX and information architecture to a level that they are comparable with the specialists. But they have to understand the basics and the concepts in order to manage conversation and projects.

Plus there is a lot of pure IT stuff which for example runs the network infrastructure - usually if you are good at that, chances that you are good at UX are slim. And that is fine. To a certain degree you may prove to have enough out of the box thinking and such to move up ranks. 

And as well as a normal administrative staff member does not need to understand the whole IT infrastructure nor the processes (they shall just do the work someone else has thought out for them) does the normal geek need to understand the biz side.


On higher ranks though it is mandantory. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan, there is no doubt that both sides have absolute morons and clueless people! :) The point I am insisting on is that &#8211; taking your example &#8211; it is not the job of biz side to understand UX and information architecture to a level that they are comparable with the specialists. But they have to understand the basics and the concepts in order to manage conversation and projects.</p>
<p>Plus there is a lot of pure IT stuff which for example runs the network infrastructure &#8211; usually if you are good at that, chances that you are good at UX are slim. And that is fine. To a certain degree you may prove to have enough out of the box thinking and such to move up ranks. </p>
<p>And as well as a normal administrative staff member does not need to understand the whole IT infrastructure nor the processes (they shall just do the work someone else has thought out for them) does the normal geek need to understand the biz side.</p>
<p>On higher ranks though it is mandantory. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicole

Sure, there are people that understand both sides, people that have studied IT &amp; Economics for example.

But there are still some IT staff that just don&#039;t get how users think.
Consider the whole usability issue for example.
If IT would know how users work and think they could get the usability job done beforehand.
But no - there&#039;s a whole new sector of information architects and UX Engineers...

Maybe I&#039;m just too narrow-minded my self, but my impression is that lots of &#039;pure&#039; IT staff don&#039;t really think out of the box.
I&#039;m not as experienced as you are though :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicole</p>
<p>Sure, there are people that understand both sides, people that have studied IT &#038; Economics for example.</p>
<p>But there are still some IT staff that just don&#8217;t get how users think.<br />
Consider the whole usability issue for example.<br />
If IT would know how users work and think they could get the usability job done beforehand.<br />
But no &#8211; there&#8217;s a whole new sector of information architects and UX Engineers&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just too narrow-minded my self, but my impression is that lots of &#8216;pure&#8217; IT staff don&#8217;t really think out of the box.<br />
I&#8217;m not as experienced as you are though :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stefan I disagree with you. It is job of IT to a certain level to understand the biz side as much as it is responsibility of the biz side to a certain degree to understand how their IT works. Meaning on a strategic / conceptual level, not the details.

We do need such interpreters because both sides have problems with it - mind you my own education is exactly that bridge between the both worlds. As a result, the stronger invested partner in this (which is IT) has to be more sensible when in fact the biz side should be trained.

Take a closer look at probably how few people on the biz side of your internship are capable of understanding basic processes of IT - which is a very dark discovery because biz processes are not structured that different.

@Andriy: Exactly. Sadly there is no way to build up on common sense and understanding, in many cases being so strict and absolut is the only way to go. Biz and IT should be treating each other like adults. If It can learn to only buy gadgets when they are budgeted and necessary, the biz side should be able to do similar the other way round. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stefan I disagree with you. It is job of IT to a certain level to understand the biz side as much as it is responsibility of the biz side to a certain degree to understand how their IT works. Meaning on a strategic / conceptual level, not the details.</p>
<p>We do need such interpreters because both sides have problems with it &#8211; mind you my own education is exactly that bridge between the both worlds. As a result, the stronger invested partner in this (which is IT) has to be more sensible when in fact the biz side should be trained.</p>
<p>Take a closer look at probably how few people on the biz side of your internship are capable of understanding basic processes of IT &#8211; which is a very dark discovery because biz processes are not structured that different.</p>
<p>@Andriy: Exactly. Sadly there is no way to build up on common sense and understanding, in many cases being so strict and absolut is the only way to go. Biz and IT should be treating each other like adults. If It can learn to only buy gadgets when they are budgeted and necessary, the biz side should be able to do similar the other way round. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Andriy Tymchenko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andriy Tymchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from IT, there will be corporate security - those guys have very simple and explanatory language for business &quot;what and how you will loose as soon as your corporate data gone to 3rd party&quot;. And yes, IT will be more than happy to send circulated email with something like &quot;you are STRICTLY PROHIBITED in any way to use Google Apps at work. period&quot;

Google Apps may find its way into hearts of sole tradesmen (single &amp; family business) but those pay dearly for their mistakes - they just go busted as soon as someone else figures out from their (now publicly available on search) data. And that John from his own buttershop on corner has no clue how Google Apps works, so... Lets see it &quot;in real life&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from IT, there will be corporate security &#8211; those guys have very simple and explanatory language for business &#8220;what and how you will loose as soon as your corporate data gone to 3rd party&#8221;. And yes, IT will be more than happy to send circulated email with something like &#8220;you are STRICTLY PROHIBITED in any way to use Google Apps at work. period&#8221;</p>
<p>Google Apps may find its way into hearts of sole tradesmen (single &#038; family business) but those pay dearly for their mistakes &#8211; they just go busted as soon as someone else figures out from their (now publicly available on search) data. And that John from his own buttershop on corner has no clue how Google Apps works, so&#8230; Lets see it &#8220;in real life&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Martens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Martens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because working in IT means developing fine senses for even the smallest remarks of your users, seeing the pattern and connecting the dots.&quot;

And this is exactly what most people of an IT staff just can&#039;t do. 
I&#039;m currently in an internship with one of the largest internet retailes in the world and work as a kind of interface between users and IT.
If there wasn&#039;t an interface like this, communication would be much harder.

IMHO, there needs to be an interpreter from IT talk to the user&#039;language and the other way round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because working in IT means developing fine senses for even the smallest remarks of your users, seeing the pattern and connecting the dots.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this is exactly what most people of an IT staff just can&#8217;t do.<br />
I&#8217;m currently in an internship with one of the largest internet retailes in the world and work as a kind of interface between users and IT.<br />
If there wasn&#8217;t an interface like this, communication would be much harder.</p>
<p>IMHO, there needs to be an interpreter from IT talk to the user&#8217;language and the other way round.</p>
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