Comments on: Where is the line you do not want to cross? http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:28:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nicole http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-522 Nicole Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:51:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-522 I provided them for a reason. ;) Hmm flame war - I am afraid that it is a bit more than just that, and it can well be the advanced version of one, with a bigger spread. I sincerly hope it will not just become a footnote in history but we make something out of it ... I provided them for a reason. ;) Hmm flame war – I am afraid that it is a bit more than just that, and it can well be the advanced version of one, with a bigger spread.

I sincerly hope it will not just become a footnote in history but we make something out of it …

]]> By: straightchris http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-521 straightchris Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:18:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-521 I should have read the links before I thought you were referring to a flame war. This is terrible… I hope that this issue will be picked up a discussed thoroughly. Noam Chomski has defended the free speech of people like Faurisson I wonder what his thoughts on this issue would be? I should have read the links before I thought you were referring to a flame war. This is terrible…
I hope that this issue will be picked up a discussed thoroughly.
Noam Chomski has defended the free speech of people like Faurisson I wonder what his thoughts on this issue would be?

]]> By: Nicole http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-520 Nicole Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:26:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-520 Chris, just follow the links to Techmeme one and two and do some reading, the ones with the big letters on Techmeme. ;) Chris, just follow the links to Techmeme one and two and do some reading, the ones with the big letters on Techmeme. ;)

]]> By: straightchris http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-519 straightchris Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:44:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-519 I read your article but couldn’t understand it as I don’t know the events and I’m unlikely to find out, yet I’m still intrigued as one from the outer “perimeter” of your community. I read your article but couldn’t understand it as I don’t know the events and I’m unlikely to find out, yet I’m still intrigued as one from the outer “perimeter” of your community.

]]> By: Nicole http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-518 Nicole Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:36:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-518 Thanks for your comments. William, it is something I run in constantly in so little things, because although we think western society is alike, there are so many differences which make every day living already complicated. In essence, in part I play somebody else when I am in the States - and that is only California - to fit better in. In the long run I would like to find a way to be more of myself. Don: I'd rather not choke. ;( Jeremy: I will try posting more outside. :) Thanks for your comments.

William, it is something I run in constantly in so little things, because although we think western society is alike, there are so many differences which make every day living already complicated. In essence, in part I play somebody else when I am in the States – and that is only California – to fit better in.

In the long run I would like to find a way to be more of myself.

Don: I’d rather not choke. ;(

Jeremy: I will try posting more outside. :)

]]> By: Jeremy Pepper http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-517 Jeremy Pepper Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:58:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-517 I miss running into you, Nicole. This post and comments elsewhere are why. Great post. I miss running into you, Nicole. This post and comments elsewhere are why. Great post.

]]> By: Don Park http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-516 Don Park Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:00:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-516 The limit is when the line turns into a noose, I believe. How do we know when it's too tight? My answer would be when we start to choke. Excellent post, Nicole. The limit is when the line turns into a noose, I believe. How do we know when it’s too tight? My answer would be when we start to choke.

Excellent post, Nicole.

]]> By: William "Papa" Meloney http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-515 William "Papa" Meloney Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:52:00 +0000 http://crueltobekind.org/where-is-the-line-you-do-not-want-to-cross-375#comment-515 My compliments to you. I believe this is exactly the right approach that should be taken in light of this most difficult circumstance. I applaud your willingness to see this as a multidimensional problem. More over I am very pleased that you are willing to place your own values directly in perspective with regards to the issues. When you do this you are offering applied practices and not just intellectual criticism. This is very important as we do not live in a purely intellectual world. As you observed, "This is how society has been build up for a very long time. The one problem with this? The rules have changed." Brava! "Rules of society are the ones YOU are used to. I am not saying this to take myself out of responsibility, but making the point that "society" on this world wide scale has not developped its rules yet!" This acknowledgement, so eloquently stated, is KEY! I am sorry to be blunt but when the old rules were "applied" it did in fact feel, to me, like a lynching. I did not, have not and will not condone the inappropriate behavior (threats/misogyny) that have brought this matter to the fore. Equally we, I specifically, should not see this circumstance with only the intellectual perspective of the moral high ground. Historically speaking such a perspective has only served to get us (world societies) into far more trouble than a resolution of an immediate insult or complaint. It is our disciplined and ordered response to such a transgression that brings our humanity to the resolution. Thank you. My compliments to you. I believe this is exactly the right approach that should be taken in light of this most difficult circumstance. I applaud your willingness to see this as a multidimensional problem. More over I am very pleased that you are willing to place your own values directly in perspective with regards to the issues. When you do this you are offering applied practices and not just intellectual criticism. This is very important as we do not live in a purely intellectual world. As you observed, “This is how society has been build up for a very long time. The one problem with this? The rules have changed.”

Brava! “Rules of society are the ones YOU are used to. I am not saying this to take myself out of responsibility, but making the point that “society” on this world wide scale has not developped its rules yet!”

This acknowledgement, so eloquently stated, is KEY! I am sorry to be blunt but when the old rules were “applied” it did in fact feel, to me, like a lynching. I did not, have not and will not condone the inappropriate behavior (threats/misogyny) that have brought this matter to the fore. Equally we, I specifically, should not see this circumstance with only the intellectual perspective of the moral high ground. Historically speaking such a perspective has only served to get us (world societies) into far more trouble than a resolution of an immediate insult or complaint.

It is our disciplined and ordered response to such a transgression that brings our humanity to the resolution.

Thank you.

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